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		<title>By: Sheidalin</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-2/#comment-446999</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheidalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to this site as I was researching &quot;proper&quot; gratuity percentages after a raging fight with my mother yesterday.  She despises that I routinely &quot;over tip&quot; in her opinion.  She and my father are good and generous people, and they consider themselves good tippers.  They routinely tip on an average of 18% for quality service, 15 for average, a little less to make a point for below average service.

I never tip below 15% unless something was grossly wrong on the server&#039;s end -punishing wait staff for a kitchen foul up is plain cruel, and that after a quiet but firm discussion with the manager. 

Yes, I worked as both a server, a bartender, and a restaurant manager while working my way through college and some post grad work.  It&#039;s very common to be paid less than minimum wage, get taxed on 15% of your sales, pay out to the support staff on 15% of your sales no matter what you actually receive in tips.  That&#039;s the reason I&#039;ll almost never tip below 15%...I view it as charging the server.

Today my mother told me I look like a fool when I over tip...bringing to mind the old quote that one looks like an ass when one over tips and a bigger ass when one under tips.  She and my father refuse to believe that 15% as standard and 20% for excellence is outdated.  She accused me of trying to make myself look more important than others.   Not at all the case....I think this is simply an instance of a generational gap, compounded by my first hand experience in the industry.

When I finally broke out in the corporate world, and later in private business, I wasn&#039;t at all certain how much to tip and for which services.  I researched travel and business guides, I watched those in business that I wished to emulate, and I made certain I never forgot certain lessons I learned on the other side of the service counter.  I follow the Golden Rule.

15% is base wage to a server unless they&#039;ve done something grossly out of line, 20% is appropriate for average to above average service.  If a server goes above and beyond and truly enhances my experience, I don&#039;t cringe at going to 25%.

Whether hosting a large group or small, keep that tip in mind when planning which establishment you can afford to patronize, and how many people you can afford to host.

When determining that tip, remember one final tidbit.  By and large, people will tolerate mediocre food if they receive excellent personal service.  The reverse is not true.  The greatest chefs in the world could produce their finest dishes on their best days, if the service is poor, few will return for a second taste.
A good chef, a good owner, a good manager knows that and makes certain their service staff lives it, that staff deserves to be treated as that important part of the dining experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to this site as I was researching &#8220;proper&#8221; gratuity percentages after a raging fight with my mother yesterday.  She despises that I routinely &#8220;over tip&#8221; in her opinion.  She and my father are good and generous people, and they consider themselves good tippers.  They routinely tip on an average of 18% for quality service, 15 for average, a little less to make a point for below average service.</p>
<p>I never tip below 15% unless something was grossly wrong on the server&#8217;s end -punishing wait staff for a kitchen foul up is plain cruel, and that after a quiet but firm discussion with the manager. </p>
<p>Yes, I worked as both a server, a bartender, and a restaurant manager while working my way through college and some post grad work.  It&#8217;s very common to be paid less than minimum wage, get taxed on 15% of your sales, pay out to the support staff on 15% of your sales no matter what you actually receive in tips.  That&#8217;s the reason I&#8217;ll almost never tip below 15%&#8230;I view it as charging the server.</p>
<p>Today my mother told me I look like a fool when I over tip&#8230;bringing to mind the old quote that one looks like an ass when one over tips and a bigger ass when one under tips.  She and my father refuse to believe that 15% as standard and 20% for excellence is outdated.  She accused me of trying to make myself look more important than others.   Not at all the case&#8230;.I think this is simply an instance of a generational gap, compounded by my first hand experience in the industry.</p>
<p>When I finally broke out in the corporate world, and later in private business, I wasn&#8217;t at all certain how much to tip and for which services.  I researched travel and business guides, I watched those in business that I wished to emulate, and I made certain I never forgot certain lessons I learned on the other side of the service counter.  I follow the Golden Rule.</p>
<p>15% is base wage to a server unless they&#8217;ve done something grossly out of line, 20% is appropriate for average to above average service.  If a server goes above and beyond and truly enhances my experience, I don&#8217;t cringe at going to 25%.</p>
<p>Whether hosting a large group or small, keep that tip in mind when planning which establishment you can afford to patronize, and how many people you can afford to host.</p>
<p>When determining that tip, remember one final tidbit.  By and large, people will tolerate mediocre food if they receive excellent personal service.  The reverse is not true.  The greatest chefs in the world could produce their finest dishes on their best days, if the service is poor, few will return for a second taste.<br />
A good chef, a good owner, a good manager knows that and makes certain their service staff lives it, that staff deserves to be treated as that important part of the dining experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-2/#comment-441197</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you said-&quot;how is waiting tables in a restaurant any different than spending several hours or days working on a presentation in order to make a sale and still losing out on the business?&quot; 

the person doing presentations for commission is CHOOSING to pursue this career path. If he is good at the job then eventually he will captivate a buyer and earn more in one sale than a server could make in one year.  

you said-&quot;should the company that refused to do business with you be required to compensate you for the time involved in putting your presentation together?&quot; 

hmmm...well the diners have actually NOT refused service. They have bought the sales pitch from the server if they are indeed sitting at a table and eating products in the restaurant. So the mere fact that the public is accepting service means that the more they buy, the more they pay. The higher the price of the item, the more they pay.

If someone is angered about leaving 20% then stay at home. Dinner outtings are a luxury for those who understand the obligations it entails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you said-&#8221;how is waiting tables in a restaurant any different than spending several hours or days working on a presentation in order to make a sale and still losing out on the business?&#8221; </p>
<p>the person doing presentations for commission is CHOOSING to pursue this career path. If he is good at the job then eventually he will captivate a buyer and earn more in one sale than a server could make in one year.  </p>
<p>you said-&#8221;should the company that refused to do business with you be required to compensate you for the time involved in putting your presentation together?&#8221; </p>
<p>hmmm&#8230;well the diners have actually NOT refused service. They have bought the sales pitch from the server if they are indeed sitting at a table and eating products in the restaurant. So the mere fact that the public is accepting service means that the more they buy, the more they pay. The higher the price of the item, the more they pay.</p>
<p>If someone is angered about leaving 20% then stay at home. Dinner outtings are a luxury for those who understand the obligations it entails.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-2/#comment-441196</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People that say &quot;they would have left more&quot; than the 18% gratuity are lying. To even bring it up or feel offended about having to pay this makes it pretty obvious that you weren&#039;t going to leave more than 10-15%. 

People are so funny. Making up stories about how they couldn&#039;t exercise their generosity because someone already required them to leave an already less-than-standard tip (18%) and this offends them. Hate to say it but even 18% is a thing of the past. You leave 15-18% if service is bad, 10% if it is horrible-and NEVER talk to a manager about a server unless they are trying to cheat or steal money or cuss or something. And anyone who doesn&#039;t leave 20% for good service is either cheap or very old in age.

Most of the time this 6-or-more party rule is a restaurant policy in which the server has no choice over adding it or not to the bill. ESPECIALLY for important dates like Valentines Day, Mother&#039;s Day, Thanksgiving or New Years. If you are a 2 person party on a holiday expect to get an auto-gratuity of 18%(i.e standard). If it wasn&#039;t the new standard rate for good service then restaurants wouldn&#039;t practice it. They are using holidays and large parties to try to make the public see what a normal tip should be.

Although I have to say that any server who changes the automatic gratuity from 18 to 20% is a lying, cheating idiot. Do NOT pay that amount and alert the manager! They need to be fired for taking advantage of the golden opportunity they have been given. They can be assured an average tip rather than a cheap tip but have chosen to abuse this blessing. So, point these cheaters out!

So if you truly are one of those &quot;generous&quot; people, then why feel offended at the auto-grat? Why not leave the extra amount in the &quot;additional gratuity&quot; line-which is WHY it&#039;s there. The server did not add the auto-grat on his own free will-so why punish him for it? Just seems like a selfish way to keep your extra pennies in your own piggy bank at the expense of a starving college student.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People that say &#8220;they would have left more&#8221; than the 18% gratuity are lying. To even bring it up or feel offended about having to pay this makes it pretty obvious that you weren&#8217;t going to leave more than 10-15%. </p>
<p>People are so funny. Making up stories about how they couldn&#8217;t exercise their generosity because someone already required them to leave an already less-than-standard tip (18%) and this offends them. Hate to say it but even 18% is a thing of the past. You leave 15-18% if service is bad, 10% if it is horrible-and NEVER talk to a manager about a server unless they are trying to cheat or steal money or cuss or something. And anyone who doesn&#8217;t leave 20% for good service is either cheap or very old in age.</p>
<p>Most of the time this 6-or-more party rule is a restaurant policy in which the server has no choice over adding it or not to the bill. ESPECIALLY for important dates like Valentines Day, Mother&#8217;s Day, Thanksgiving or New Years. If you are a 2 person party on a holiday expect to get an auto-gratuity of 18%(i.e standard). If it wasn&#8217;t the new standard rate for good service then restaurants wouldn&#8217;t practice it. They are using holidays and large parties to try to make the public see what a normal tip should be.</p>
<p>Although I have to say that any server who changes the automatic gratuity from 18 to 20% is a lying, cheating idiot. Do NOT pay that amount and alert the manager! They need to be fired for taking advantage of the golden opportunity they have been given. They can be assured an average tip rather than a cheap tip but have chosen to abuse this blessing. So, point these cheaters out!</p>
<p>So if you truly are one of those &#8220;generous&#8221; people, then why feel offended at the auto-grat? Why not leave the extra amount in the &#8220;additional gratuity&#8221; line-which is WHY it&#8217;s there. The server did not add the auto-grat on his own free will-so why punish him for it? Just seems like a selfish way to keep your extra pennies in your own piggy bank at the expense of a starving college student.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-2/#comment-436641</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One sad point I have seen in this thread and the thread from the first article is this - regardless of the service, if a gratuity is added automatically, then it is left at that (15% or whatever) even if the person in question would have left more otherwise.  This is the business, not the server, adding it in, yet the server gets the shaft, as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One sad point I have seen in this thread and the thread from the first article is this &#8211; regardless of the service, if a gratuity is added automatically, then it is left at that (15% or whatever) even if the person in question would have left more otherwise.  This is the business, not the server, adding it in, yet the server gets the shaft, as always.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nazim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote: &quot;But, how is waiting tables in a restaurant any different than spending several hours or days working on a presentation in order to make a sale and still losing out on the business? Should the company that refused to do business with you be required to compensate you for the time involved in putting your presentation together?&quot;

The similarity escapes me, as does the point of those sentences. Are you trying to point out that the server did not earn the money? Or is it that they do some things and the customer is entitled to simply not pay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote: &#8220;But, how is waiting tables in a restaurant any different than spending several hours or days working on a presentation in order to make a sale and still losing out on the business? Should the company that refused to do business with you be required to compensate you for the time involved in putting your presentation together?&#8221;</p>
<p>The similarity escapes me, as does the point of those sentences. Are you trying to point out that the server did not earn the money? Or is it that they do some things and the customer is entitled to simply not pay?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-2/#comment-433077</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DID YOU KNOW THAT IN SOME PLACES THE HOURLY WAGE FOR A SERVER IS 2.50?????? BECAUSE They depend on their tips...Yeah 15 percent was acceptable maybe 10 years ago. Let&#039;s face it the economy has changed and if you can afford to tip the appropriate 18-20 percent you should not go out to eat. AND DO NOT assume that because you are the only table in the place and that the server is only waiting on you therefore they deserve less tip because they aren&#039;t busy. Also, a server has to pay taxes every year just like you do, because their hourly wage isn&#039;t enough to cover their taxes!!! I am assuming that because of you IGNORANT, RUDE OBLIVION to what it&#039;s like putting up with people like you, you have NEVER waited tables in your life. This makes me sad that assumptions that you have about servers. They probably work way harder then you for a fraction of what you make and give up their nights and social lives doing it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DID YOU KNOW THAT IN SOME PLACES THE HOURLY WAGE FOR A SERVER IS 2.50?????? BECAUSE They depend on their tips&#8230;Yeah 15 percent was acceptable maybe 10 years ago. Let&#8217;s face it the economy has changed and if you can afford to tip the appropriate 18-20 percent you should not go out to eat. AND DO NOT assume that because you are the only table in the place and that the server is only waiting on you therefore they deserve less tip because they aren&#8217;t busy. Also, a server has to pay taxes every year just like you do, because their hourly wage isn&#8217;t enough to cover their taxes!!! I am assuming that because of you IGNORANT, RUDE OBLIVION to what it&#8217;s like putting up with people like you, you have NEVER waited tables in your life. This makes me sad that assumptions that you have about servers. They probably work way harder then you for a fraction of what you make and give up their nights and social lives doing it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Opie Pull</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-1/#comment-404881</link>
		<dc:creator>Opie Pull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s funny that we as humans find things to bicker about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny that we as humans find things to bicker about.</p>
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		<title>By: bob johnson</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-1/#comment-404844</link>
		<dc:creator>bob johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was relieved to hear that you have never worked as a server, because if you had, you would know that you are not very smart.  Lets get this straight.
#1 Because closing time was drawing nigh the server was probably in the &quot;ok lets wrap things up stage of the night.&quot; so when you and your &quot; group of friends&quot; waltzed in, 10 minutes before closing, your appearance had already been tainted in the servers eyes.  KNOW WHEN THE RESTAURANT CLOSES. Remember, the server only gets paid $2.15/hour (that&#039;s two dollars and fifteen cents an hour from the boss), so chances are that the server had already had a slow day with little tips from folks like yourself who think they tip well.
#2 While you laugh and talk while ignoring the sever, and the time, your continually decreasing the respect the server is going to give you. 
# 3 The server unfortunately summed you up to be just like the rest of the overwhelming majority of people who eat out. It&#039;s true, you may sit on your behind all day and feel bored at your job but you are making minimum wage at least, as compared to servers that may have not made minimum wage all day and are basically working for free. 
MAYBE YOU SHOULD THINK OF THINGS OBJECTIVELY SOMETIMES,WHAT HAS THE WAITERS DAY BEEN LIKE? YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN THAT THE WAITER CHARGED YOU A FEE FOR SERVING YOU, AND YOUR DISRESPECTFUL FAMILY.  I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THE FOLKS LIKE YOU. I HOPE THAT YOU QUIT EATING OUT FOREVER.

Have a nice day, CHEAPO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was relieved to hear that you have never worked as a server, because if you had, you would know that you are not very smart.  Lets get this straight.<br />
#1 Because closing time was drawing nigh the server was probably in the &#8220;ok lets wrap things up stage of the night.&#8221; so when you and your &#8221; group of friends&#8221; waltzed in, 10 minutes before closing, your appearance had already been tainted in the servers eyes.  KNOW WHEN THE RESTAURANT CLOSES. Remember, the server only gets paid $2.15/hour (that&#8217;s two dollars and fifteen cents an hour from the boss), so chances are that the server had already had a slow day with little tips from folks like yourself who think they tip well.<br />
#2 While you laugh and talk while ignoring the sever, and the time, your continually decreasing the respect the server is going to give you.<br />
# 3 The server unfortunately summed you up to be just like the rest of the overwhelming majority of people who eat out. It&#8217;s true, you may sit on your behind all day and feel bored at your job but you are making minimum wage at least, as compared to servers that may have not made minimum wage all day and are basically working for free.<br />
MAYBE YOU SHOULD THINK OF THINGS OBJECTIVELY SOMETIMES,WHAT HAS THE WAITERS DAY BEEN LIKE? YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN THAT THE WAITER CHARGED YOU A FEE FOR SERVING YOU, AND YOUR DISRESPECTFUL FAMILY.  I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THE FOLKS LIKE YOU. I HOPE THAT YOU QUIT EATING OUT FOREVER.</p>
<p>Have a nice day, CHEAPO.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/12/i-dont-like-automatic-gratuities/comment-page-1/#comment-399189</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, much thanks to Mike comment #40 and &quot;waiter&quot; comment #41.  I have worked at the same small local restaurant for 8 years and love my job.  We have primarily female customers and probably 50% or more of them are &quot;regulars&quot;.  We clock in 5 hours but only serve 3 of those 5 hours.  Our hourly pay is $2.13.  We also add 18% to parties of 6 or more and it it clearly stated on the computer receipt.  It is also clearly on the menu although most people don&#039;t pay attention to anything on the menu other than the food selection.  It is amazing what people will tip even if you know for a fact you have given them your all, gone above and beyond, spoiled them each and every time they come in.  Someone commented on getting out the cell phone to calculate a tip.  Ya they do it all the time!  Even when it&#039;s only 2 people and they both had the identical food!  Gees.  If you have a &quot;foreigner&quot;, forget it.  If you get a table of &quot;old ladies&quot; forget it. I&#039;m sorry, but it is absolutely true.  My favorite is summer or Holidays when school is out and you get a group of high school kids....forget it!   You better not forget to add gratuity to these people because PLAN on getting screwed.  It amazes me too that so many people don&#039;t tip based on bill amount, they think oh ya $2.00 is plenty for &quot;me&quot;.  I believe in treating everyone as if THEY were our best customer regardless of their tipping habits (or lack of).  It&#039;s very difficult to do but if you don&#039;t, it DOES come back to haunt you.  TO THOSE WHO COMMENTED THAT THEY WILL NOT ADD &quot;A PENNY MORE&quot; TO A BILL THAT HAS AUTO-GRATUITY. GIVE ME A BREAK, MOST OF YOU KNOW DARN WELL YOU DIDN&#039;T INTEND TO TIP EVEN THE 18% OR 20%.  WHY DO YOU FEEL OFFENDED AND WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE KIDDING?  CHANCES ARE YOU WERE GOING TO TIP 15% OR LESS.  I&#039;ve waited on the same people multiple times and opted to NOT add gratuity to see what they will tip...guess what happens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, much thanks to Mike comment #40 and &#8220;waiter&#8221; comment #41.  I have worked at the same small local restaurant for 8 years and love my job.  We have primarily female customers and probably 50% or more of them are &#8220;regulars&#8221;.  We clock in 5 hours but only serve 3 of those 5 hours.  Our hourly pay is $2.13.  We also add 18% to parties of 6 or more and it it clearly stated on the computer receipt.  It is also clearly on the menu although most people don&#8217;t pay attention to anything on the menu other than the food selection.  It is amazing what people will tip even if you know for a fact you have given them your all, gone above and beyond, spoiled them each and every time they come in.  Someone commented on getting out the cell phone to calculate a tip.  Ya they do it all the time!  Even when it&#8217;s only 2 people and they both had the identical food!  Gees.  If you have a &#8220;foreigner&#8221;, forget it.  If you get a table of &#8220;old ladies&#8221; forget it. I&#8217;m sorry, but it is absolutely true.  My favorite is summer or Holidays when school is out and you get a group of high school kids&#8230;.forget it!   You better not forget to add gratuity to these people because PLAN on getting screwed.  It amazes me too that so many people don&#8217;t tip based on bill amount, they think oh ya $2.00 is plenty for &#8220;me&#8221;.  I believe in treating everyone as if THEY were our best customer regardless of their tipping habits (or lack of).  It&#8217;s very difficult to do but if you don&#8217;t, it DOES come back to haunt you.  TO THOSE WHO COMMENTED THAT THEY WILL NOT ADD &#8220;A PENNY MORE&#8221; TO A BILL THAT HAS AUTO-GRATUITY. GIVE ME A BREAK, MOST OF YOU KNOW DARN WELL YOU DIDN&#8217;T INTEND TO TIP EVEN THE 18% OR 20%.  WHY DO YOU FEEL OFFENDED AND WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE KIDDING?  CHANCES ARE YOU WERE GOING TO TIP 15% OR LESS.  I&#8217;ve waited on the same people multiple times and opted to NOT add gratuity to see what they will tip&#8230;guess what happens?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sh*t.  18 percent was the going tip rate when I lived in Colorado in 1992.  15 percent tip is for bad waiters and cheap customers.  I have never waited tables, but I was a food service sales person all over the country for twenty four years and it has been 18 percent for years now.  my daughter was a waitress at a very upscale supper club and she was limited to 4 tables in a section at a time for the total shift of 5 hours.  she was the head waitress and made good money, but that was $20 an hour for a total of 25 hours a week.  that&#039;s still only 500 dollars a week.  i&#039;m sure its hard to keep the really good ones at that kind of income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sh*t.  18 percent was the going tip rate when I lived in Colorado in 1992.  15 percent tip is for bad waiters and cheap customers.  I have never waited tables, but I was a food service sales person all over the country for twenty four years and it has been 18 percent for years now.  my daughter was a waitress at a very upscale supper club and she was limited to 4 tables in a section at a time for the total shift of 5 hours.  she was the head waitress and made good money, but that was $20 an hour for a total of 25 hours a week.  that&#8217;s still only 500 dollars a week.  i&#8217;m sure its hard to keep the really good ones at that kind of income.</p>
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