Comments on: My GE Café Series Dishwasher Leaked and Ruined My Floor http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/ A personal finance blog dedicated to discussing such topics as budgeting, asset allocation, 401K, IRA, cash flow, insurance, financial planning, portfolio management, and other areas in personal finance. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:56:44 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: KC http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-309183 KC Thu, 15 May 2008 22:25:20 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-309183 It is always something. I just had new gutters installed - no big deal - take down the old, put up the new - improved water flow. Well they didn't completely take down a downspout that was being eliminated - I'll either have to do that or pay someone to do that. Now I just noticed they knocked some of my shingles lose. I'm not a repair person - no way will I get on a ladder and climb 30 feet in the air to repair some shingles. I really don't like to do home improvement for just this reason. They'll make something look better or work better, but they'll break something else or it will be hell trying to get it done right. My advice is don't fix anything that isn't broke (unfortunately my gutters were broken and not working). And don't make unecessary improvements. Who cares what it looks like as long as it works. Save your money. It is always something. I just had new gutters installed – no big deal – take down the old, put up the new – improved water flow. Well they didn’t completely take down a downspout that was being eliminated – I’ll either have to do that or pay someone to do that. Now I just noticed they knocked some of my shingles lose. I’m not a repair person – no way will I get on a ladder and climb 30 feet in the air to repair some shingles.

I really don’t like to do home improvement for just this reason. They’ll make something look better or work better, but they’ll break something else or it will be hell trying to get it done right. My advice is don’t fix anything that isn’t broke (unfortunately my gutters were broken and not working). And don’t make unecessary improvements. Who cares what it looks like as long as it works. Save your money.

]]> By: tom http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-309160 tom Thu, 15 May 2008 19:52:14 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-309160 JLP, This exact same thing happened to us. We just bought a house at the end of January, a foreclosure (vacant for 1.5 years). A couple weeks ago I noticed a glisten where the dishwasher cabinet meets the hardwoods (see others comments about hardwoods in kitchen, I completely agree). I pulled off the dishwasher kickplate, and what I saw was completely disgusting. The dishwasher was slowly dripping every 30 seconds, and mold was growing everywhere. That dishwasher must have been leaking years before the past occupants moved out. Luckily we have a homeowners policy against mold. Someone, other than you should be paying for that damage. Good luck with it all. JLP,

This exact same thing happened to us. We just bought a house at the end of January, a foreclosure (vacant for 1.5 years). A couple weeks ago I noticed a glisten where the dishwasher cabinet meets the hardwoods (see others comments about hardwoods in kitchen, I completely agree). I pulled off the dishwasher kickplate, and what I saw was completely disgusting. The dishwasher was slowly dripping every 30 seconds, and mold was growing everywhere. That dishwasher must have been leaking years before the past occupants moved out. Luckily we have a homeowners policy against mold.

Someone, other than you should be paying for that damage. Good luck with it all.

]]> By: Bozo http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-309149 Bozo Thu, 15 May 2008 19:14:27 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-309149 To: Ken. Amen on hardwood floor in the kitchen. Yup, bought our house in 1978 (new) when hardwood floors were all the rage in the kitchen and elsewhere. Now, I must admit the hardwood floors are beautiful. But with even a few drops from the sink day-by-day, not to mention one minor refrigerator leak, it has been a chore keeping the floors polished and waxed. Hardwood floors and water generally don't mix well. Oh, well, look at the bright side. At least you have a house. I keep telling myself that, over, and over, and over, well . . .. Off-topic: our herb garden has morphed into an herb and tomato garden. Ready for planting this weekend. Actually had half the herbs last through the winter, so we have a head start. My wife is quite the gourmet cook, so my taste buds are getting revved up. Yours, Bozo To: Ken.

Amen on hardwood floor in the kitchen. Yup, bought our house in 1978 (new) when hardwood floors were all the rage in the kitchen and elsewhere. Now, I must admit the hardwood floors are beautiful. But with even a few drops from the sink day-by-day, not to mention one minor refrigerator leak, it has been a chore keeping the floors polished and waxed. Hardwood floors and water generally don’t mix well.

Oh, well, look at the bright side. At least you have a house. I keep telling myself that, over, and over, and over, well . . ..

Off-topic: our herb garden has morphed into an herb and tomato garden. Ready for planting this weekend. Actually had half the herbs last through the winter, so we have a head start. My wife is quite the gourmet cook, so my taste buds are getting revved up.

Yours,

Bozo

]]> By: Ken http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-309130 Ken Thu, 15 May 2008 18:09:08 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-309130 This is why I won't ever install wood flooring in the kitchen or bathrooms(any room that has contact with water). It drives me crazy that developers put wood flooring in kitchens in all the new high-end homes and have been doing this for years and all of us unsuspecting customers walk through the model homes just think its beautiful, but really not practical. It should be tile only in kitchens. You don't won't stone either because you must repeatedly seal it or that spaghetti sauce spill will stain your stone. I had wood flooring in the kitchen of my last house and over time of opening the refrigerator door, those little wisps of cold moist air from the fridge caused the floor near the door to buckle and discolor. This is why I won’t ever install wood flooring in the kitchen or bathrooms(any room that has contact with water). It drives me crazy that developers put wood flooring in kitchens in all the new high-end homes and have been doing this for years and all of us unsuspecting customers walk through the model homes just think its beautiful, but really not practical. It should be tile only in kitchens. You don’t won’t stone either because you must repeatedly seal it or that spaghetti sauce spill will stain your stone.

I had wood flooring in the kitchen of my last house and over time of opening the refrigerator door, those little wisps of cold moist air from the fridge caused the floor near the door to buckle and discolor.

]]> By: Diane from PA http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-309048 Diane from PA Thu, 15 May 2008 14:19:03 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-309048 Hope you can get some satisfaction from the installer or GE. However I do have a question. Without doing a daily check how in the world can you know if you have a slow leak that will cost you big? Big leaks are much better, you see them right away and clean up before too much harm is done, but the slow ones can cause soooo much damage before discovery. Last year we had one of the slow ones and the ceiling of the bedroom below the kitchen came crashing down before anyone realized we had a problem. We had to do some major remodeling in that room! Now I am constantly worried that this dishwasher can be doing the same thing and I would never know it. Hope you can get some satisfaction from the installer or GE.
However I do have a question. Without doing a daily check how in the world can you know if you have a slow leak that will cost you big? Big leaks are much better, you see them right away and clean up before too much harm is done, but the slow ones can cause soooo much damage before discovery.
Last year we had one of the slow ones and the ceiling of the bedroom below the kitchen came crashing down before anyone realized we had a problem. We had to do some major remodeling in that room!
Now I am constantly worried that this dishwasher can be doing the same thing and I would never know it.

]]> By: Bozo http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-308871 Bozo Thu, 15 May 2008 02:18:56 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-308871 JLP: I recommend you read your contract with GE very carefully, including the manufacturer's warranty. Very often, the contract and/or warranty specifies that the manufacturer and/or installer agrees only to replace or repair defective products, and is NOT responsible for any "incidental or consequential" damages (read, damage to your floor caused by the defective product or installation). Now, these types of disclaimers (if they are in your contract or warranty) are sometimes void under state consumer-protection laws, in which case you might have a small claims court action. Time for JLP to do some homework. Oh, and don't even think about making a claim on your homeowner's policy. Leaks aren't covered. Good luck. Yours, Bozo JLP: I recommend you read your contract with GE very carefully, including the manufacturer’s warranty. Very often, the contract and/or warranty specifies that the manufacturer and/or installer agrees only to replace or repair defective products, and is NOT responsible for any “incidental or consequential” damages (read, damage to your floor caused by the defective product or installation).

Now, these types of disclaimers (if they are in your contract or warranty) are sometimes void under state consumer-protection laws, in which case you might have a small claims court action.

Time for JLP to do some homework.

Oh, and don’t even think about making a claim on your homeowner’s policy. Leaks aren’t covered.

Good luck.

Yours,

Bozo

]]> By: Mike http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-308870 Mike Thu, 15 May 2008 02:16:27 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-308870 I worked for GE Appliances for 15 years as an Area Sales Manager. My experience tells me you should be fine when dealing with Electric Insurance. Make sure you do have pictures and keep any estimates and allow them to send an adjuster out to inspect the problem. They will come through for you and correct the damage as long as it was not found to be an installation error by the contractor who installed the appliance. The Cafe products are really terrific and you should expect long service from them. Good Luck. Mike I worked for GE Appliances for 15 years as an Area Sales Manager. My experience tells me you should be fine when dealing with Electric Insurance. Make sure you do have pictures and keep any estimates and allow them to send an adjuster out to inspect the problem. They will come through for you and correct the damage as long as it was not found to be an installation error by the contractor who installed the appliance. The Cafe products are really terrific and you should expect long service from them. Good Luck. Mike

]]> By: Becki http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-308776 Becki Wed, 14 May 2008 22:31:07 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-308776 I am so sorry, that bites! Let me know how it turns out! Good news for your wife, no cooking!!!! I am so sorry, that bites! Let me know how it turns out! Good news for your wife, no cooking!!!!

]]> By: Jay http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-308751 Jay Wed, 14 May 2008 21:26:45 +0000 http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/14/my-ge-caf-series-dishwasher-leaked-and-ruined-my-floor/#comment-308751 That's rough! I remember helping a friend clean up after a busted water heater. Not fun. Hope you have lots of pictures! GE better come through. If they don't, here comes Judge Judy :-) That’s rough! I remember helping a friend clean up after a busted water heater. Not fun.
Hope you have lots of pictures! GE better come through. If they don’t, here comes Judge Judy :-)

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