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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 06:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was me having to give this deal, I would start focusing on the basics of proven financial principles to build stability in their life that they can build on later. The biggest thing hurting people in these situations is that they are often so financially beat up they have lost their hope. By teaching them some easy to understand and use principles (Like Dave Ramsey&#039;s Total Money Makeover for example) will show them that its possible to recover and even eventually thrive. That there is a light at the end of the tunnel thats not an oncoming train.  I&#039;d start there before anything else. If you can inspire them and give them confidence then point them to information they can dig in to later as they begin to rebuild, will do ALOT for them. I know when my own stupidity caused me to go broke a few years ago, I was so beat up and slammed around that I felt like I couldnt win...and I just continued to spiral into financial death. Until I was motivated by being shown I &quot;could&quot; win if i did the right things and gave them time to work.
Instill HOPE first.. Then work on the HOW and WHY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was me having to give this deal, I would start focusing on the basics of proven financial principles to build stability in their life that they can build on later. The biggest thing hurting people in these situations is that they are often so financially beat up they have lost their hope. By teaching them some easy to understand and use principles (Like Dave Ramsey&#8217;s Total Money Makeover for example) will show them that its possible to recover and even eventually thrive. That there is a light at the end of the tunnel thats not an oncoming train.  I&#8217;d start there before anything else. If you can inspire them and give them confidence then point them to information they can dig in to later as they begin to rebuild, will do ALOT for them. I know when my own stupidity caused me to go broke a few years ago, I was so beat up and slammed around that I felt like I couldnt win&#8230;and I just continued to spiral into financial death. Until I was motivated by being shown I &#8220;could&#8221; win if i did the right things and gave them time to work.<br />
Instill HOPE first.. Then work on the HOW and WHY.</p>
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		<title>By: MSMomsmoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSMomsmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add to my post...

When I got divorced, I was receiving food stamps, my kids were getting medicaid, my daughter was in HeadStart, we lived in a cr@ppy two bedroom apartment, I had a 1977 bomb of a car and no $$.

Now, we are not rich by any means, but after going back to college (got a Pell grant), got my current job (have been here for 11 years), bought a house (9 years ago), have almost $100K in a retirement account, am working on fully funding my e-fund, have a paid for decent car, am on no public assistance whatsoever (haven&#039;t been for many years), and we took a vacation to Maui last year.

So you can do it.  It ain&#039;t always easy, but you can do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add to my post&#8230;</p>
<p>When I got divorced, I was receiving food stamps, my kids were getting medicaid, my daughter was in HeadStart, we lived in a cr@ppy two bedroom apartment, I had a 1977 bomb of a car and no $$.</p>
<p>Now, we are not rich by any means, but after going back to college (got a Pell grant), got my current job (have been here for 11 years), bought a house (9 years ago), have almost $100K in a retirement account, am working on fully funding my e-fund, have a paid for decent car, am on no public assistance whatsoever (haven&#8217;t been for many years), and we took a vacation to Maui last year.</p>
<p>So you can do it.  It ain&#8217;t always easy, but you can do it!</p>
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		<title>By: MSMomsmoney</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/05/20/ask-the-readers-how-to-advise-these-women/comment-page-1/#comment-312500</link>
		<dc:creator>MSMomsmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a single Mom.  I divorced when my children were 4, 3 and 1 years old.  When I was married, I was a stay at home Mom.  

My children are now, 18, 17 and 14 (well almost 15).

Here is my story...

My exhusband was an abusive alcoholic.  He never asked for any share of custody. I had, and still have very FULL custody of our three children.  

Do you best to ASK for and enforce child support.

Children have alot of expenses over the years.

Do not have so much pride (you don&#039;t need money from HIM, you can make it on your OWN, etc etc)
that you won&#039;t pursue child support.

Your child(ren) deserves to be supported by BOTH of their parents.

Get any assistance out there that is available to you and your children.

I can&#039;t name the numerous amount of people that have helped out me and my kids over the years.

Here are a few ideas:
Childcare is very expensive.  Consider requesting scholarships/paying on a sliding scale/getting government subsidies for paying for it.

The Boys and Girls club and the YMCA in my area have childcare on a sliding scale.

Many summer camps also have camperships for older kids, as well as you do fundraising for them, and your kid gets to go to camp for free, or very little $.

Work out a budget ...and save something...I used to save only $25 per month...but something is better than nothing.

Need a break from the kids, exchange babysitting...one Friday evening,with another single Moms kids, and vice versa.

If your family wants to help you out, let them.

When the time rolls around look into programs for first time homebuyers.  I really thought we would always be living in a dumpy two bedroom apt.  I own a modest home--bought it 9 years ago.  It is POSSIBLE.  Take a class on first time home buying.

If you can, don&#039;t go grocery shopping with your kids.  You&#039;ll be cranky, they will be cranky, and you&#039;ll overspend.

Use the library for free resournces, as well as dvd rentals.

Shop at yard sales for your younger children.  They won&#039;t know the difference, and when they are young, they don&#039;t wear out their clothes since they change sizes so frequently.

Breathe.  Take it one day at a time.  Take it one hour at a time when you need to.  Concentrate on one thing at a time.  You can&#039;t do anything well, if your mind is not on the subject at hand.

Good luck.  You will preserve and your kids will too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a single Mom.  I divorced when my children were 4, 3 and 1 years old.  When I was married, I was a stay at home Mom.  </p>
<p>My children are now, 18, 17 and 14 (well almost 15).</p>
<p>Here is my story&#8230;</p>
<p>My exhusband was an abusive alcoholic.  He never asked for any share of custody. I had, and still have very FULL custody of our three children.  </p>
<p>Do you best to ASK for and enforce child support.</p>
<p>Children have alot of expenses over the years.</p>
<p>Do not have so much pride (you don&#8217;t need money from HIM, you can make it on your OWN, etc etc)<br />
that you won&#8217;t pursue child support.</p>
<p>Your child(ren) deserves to be supported by BOTH of their parents.</p>
<p>Get any assistance out there that is available to you and your children.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t name the numerous amount of people that have helped out me and my kids over the years.</p>
<p>Here are a few ideas:<br />
Childcare is very expensive.  Consider requesting scholarships/paying on a sliding scale/getting government subsidies for paying for it.</p>
<p>The Boys and Girls club and the YMCA in my area have childcare on a sliding scale.</p>
<p>Many summer camps also have camperships for older kids, as well as you do fundraising for them, and your kid gets to go to camp for free, or very little $.</p>
<p>Work out a budget &#8230;and save something&#8230;I used to save only $25 per month&#8230;but something is better than nothing.</p>
<p>Need a break from the kids, exchange babysitting&#8230;one Friday evening,with another single Moms kids, and vice versa.</p>
<p>If your family wants to help you out, let them.</p>
<p>When the time rolls around look into programs for first time homebuyers.  I really thought we would always be living in a dumpy two bedroom apt.  I own a modest home&#8211;bought it 9 years ago.  It is POSSIBLE.  Take a class on first time home buying.</p>
<p>If you can, don&#8217;t go grocery shopping with your kids.  You&#8217;ll be cranky, they will be cranky, and you&#8217;ll overspend.</p>
<p>Use the library for free resournces, as well as dvd rentals.</p>
<p>Shop at yard sales for your younger children.  They won&#8217;t know the difference, and when they are young, they don&#8217;t wear out their clothes since they change sizes so frequently.</p>
<p>Breathe.  Take it one day at a time.  Take it one hour at a time when you need to.  Concentrate on one thing at a time.  You can&#8217;t do anything well, if your mind is not on the subject at hand.</p>
<p>Good luck.  You will preserve and your kids will too.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyDaGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyDaGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would start with spending. Differentiate between needs and wants. Try to make them understand they have *choices* as to how they spend their money. Make them question their basic assumptions about themselves. Show how convenience costs money. Don&#039;t use the B(udget) word, talk about spending plans. How many times have people asked for help with setting up a budget? As simple as that sounds, they are clueless because they never analyzed their spending.

Next, talk about banking. Explore the use of free checking. Discuss the downside of check-cashing places and payday loans.

I don&#039;t think these people should even consider credit until they can control their spending</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would start with spending. Differentiate between needs and wants. Try to make them understand they have *choices* as to how they spend their money. Make them question their basic assumptions about themselves. Show how convenience costs money. Don&#8217;t use the B(udget) word, talk about spending plans. How many times have people asked for help with setting up a budget? As simple as that sounds, they are clueless because they never analyzed their spending.</p>
<p>Next, talk about banking. Explore the use of free checking. Discuss the downside of check-cashing places and payday loans.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think these people should even consider credit until they can control their spending</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would stress that developing the habit of saving for yourself is very important...even if you can only save $10/month it is still very much worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would stress that developing the habit of saving for yourself is very important&#8230;even if you can only save $10/month it is still very much worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, advising them to save money while on TANF will work against them.  If they go over a certain amount in savings (under $2000 in most states) they will lose access to benefits, including food stamps and Employment-Related DayCare (ERDC).

But I would concentrate on daily budgeting, saving on food--including using coupons, and cutting back on utility expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, advising them to save money while on TANF will work against them.  If they go over a certain amount in savings (under $2000 in most states) they will lose access to benefits, including food stamps and Employment-Related DayCare (ERDC).</p>
<p>But I would concentrate on daily budgeting, saving on food&#8211;including using coupons, and cutting back on utility expenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are really great insights; thank you!  I especially will mention the library (our city has one of the best/biggest in the country).  I was stunned to find out they have as many DVDs for rent as the local blockbuster!  

And I&#039;ll think about mentioning how to deal with struggling family members - how it&#039;s important to distinguish &quot;helping&quot; from &quot;enabling.&quot;  That IS a toughie, though, to be sure.  

Remembering annual expenses is a great point, too, and asking them what they want to know (and leaving plenty of time for Q&amp;A) will probably be the best thing.

I&#039;ll let you all know how it turns out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are really great insights; thank you!  I especially will mention the library (our city has one of the best/biggest in the country).  I was stunned to find out they have as many DVDs for rent as the local blockbuster!  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll think about mentioning how to deal with struggling family members &#8211; how it&#8217;s important to distinguish &#8220;helping&#8221; from &#8220;enabling.&#8221;  That IS a toughie, though, to be sure.  </p>
<p>Remembering annual expenses is a great point, too, and asking them what they want to know (and leaving plenty of time for Q&amp;A) will probably be the best thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let you all know how it turns out!</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some other thoughts

Even though the circumstances of their lives may be difficult you can&#039;t stress enough the importance of a positive attitude as they embark on making changes in their lives.  Every change they make that sticks shifts them into a new place and it&#039;s in that place that they can make more positive changes.  It&#039;s incremental and iterative.

Another thought is to try to find a person of trust to whom they can go when they need help or advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other thoughts</p>
<p>Even though the circumstances of their lives may be difficult you can&#8217;t stress enough the importance of a positive attitude as they embark on making changes in their lives.  Every change they make that sticks shifts them into a new place and it&#8217;s in that place that they can make more positive changes.  It&#8217;s incremental and iterative.</p>
<p>Another thought is to try to find a person of trust to whom they can go when they need help or advice.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the one thing most of these single mothers don&#039;t fully comprehend is that children are expensive. I met one woman who felt that public assistance would provide enough money to cover the cost of a child. In reality, it falls far short. And father&#039;s can&#039;t always be counted on to provide child support. There is the issue of budgeting for day to day living but also recognizing that delaying a family until they can afford it is key part of planning. Also, I&#039;d strongly recommend that they pursue their education. Education leads to better paying jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the one thing most of these single mothers don&#8217;t fully comprehend is that children are expensive. I met one woman who felt that public assistance would provide enough money to cover the cost of a child. In reality, it falls far short. And father&#8217;s can&#8217;t always be counted on to provide child support. There is the issue of budgeting for day to day living but also recognizing that delaying a family until they can afford it is key part of planning. Also, I&#8217;d strongly recommend that they pursue their education. Education leads to better paying jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugalicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugalicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To motivate I would try to stress the importance of focusing less on being a victim and more on taking the challenges set in front of them head on.  I would explain that yes, life that was handed to them was unfair, but complaining about it will solve nothing because at the end of the day - it will not get them ahead.

I would try to turn around their challenges into a positive.  Have them look at their situation as walls put in front of them to knock down because once they do it will get easier and easier.

If they do not have internet access encourage them to be creative to find it.  Their library, a friend or relative&#039;s home. They can do it! 

This go getter attitude is not only great for them, but for their children who will see mom excel with all of these forces against her.

Good luck. What a great program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To motivate I would try to stress the importance of focusing less on being a victim and more on taking the challenges set in front of them head on.  I would explain that yes, life that was handed to them was unfair, but complaining about it will solve nothing because at the end of the day &#8211; it will not get them ahead.</p>
<p>I would try to turn around their challenges into a positive.  Have them look at their situation as walls put in front of them to knock down because once they do it will get easier and easier.</p>
<p>If they do not have internet access encourage them to be creative to find it.  Their library, a friend or relative&#8217;s home. They can do it! </p>
<p>This go getter attitude is not only great for them, but for their children who will see mom excel with all of these forces against her.</p>
<p>Good luck. What a great program.</p>
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