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		<title>By: KC</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/07/24/my-dealership-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-339205</link>
		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Doug, I&#039;m with you on the Honda/Toyota thing (as I own an Acura and a Toyota), but JLP has a Buick and that&#039;s the one domestic brand I will swear by.  My mother has driven Buicks since 1973, and my grandmother has driven them since the 50s (she&#039;s 90 and still drives a Buick).  Those cars are great.  They take the miles and require minimum work.  Of the 12 or so Buicks I&#039;ve known my mother and grandmother to own, only 1 was a lemon, a 1981 Century.  Other than that one car the rest have take up to 120k+ miles with few repairs.

JLP would do good to keep this Buick as long as its reliable and serves his family well.  He can then buy another Buick or get a good Honda/Toyota (and I&#039;ll add Nissan).  Unfortunately for me my mechanic (as discussed above) doesn&#039;t work on Buicks or else I might be tempted to get a Lacrosse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Doug, I&#8217;m with you on the Honda/Toyota thing (as I own an Acura and a Toyota), but JLP has a Buick and that&#8217;s the one domestic brand I will swear by.  My mother has driven Buicks since 1973, and my grandmother has driven them since the 50s (she&#8217;s 90 and still drives a Buick).  Those cars are great.  They take the miles and require minimum work.  Of the 12 or so Buicks I&#8217;ve known my mother and grandmother to own, only 1 was a lemon, a 1981 Century.  Other than that one car the rest have take up to 120k+ miles with few repairs.</p>
<p>JLP would do good to keep this Buick as long as its reliable and serves his family well.  He can then buy another Buick or get a good Honda/Toyota (and I&#8217;ll add Nissan).  Unfortunately for me my mechanic (as discussed above) doesn&#8217;t work on Buicks or else I might be tempted to get a Lacrosse.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask other Buick (or GM) owners where they service their cars - especially people with older models.  This is how I found a great mechanic.  Particularily listen to single women (or women whose husband&#039;s know nothing about cars, such as myself) if they trust a mechanic, he&#039;s good as gold.  I have a mechanic now whom I will consult with before I buy a car.  In other words, I&#039;ll only buy the models he works on.  When my husband&#039;s car was totaled last year I gave him a list of cars he could buy that Dallas (our mechanic) works on.  I told my husband to buy one of these cars and if he didn&#039;t he was on his own as far as repairs went.  My husband is no dummy, he bought a car off that list - he doesn&#039;t want to go shopping for a mechanic either.

When I bought my Acura a few years ago I had it serviced a few times at the dealer - maily cause there was warranty work involved.  They always found extra things wrong with it.  I would take my car over to my mechanic, Dallas, and he&#039;d check it out and say &quot;looks good, I don&#039;t know what Acura saw wrong with it.&quot;  In other words - I&#039;m scared to go to the dealer, not my mechanic.  All those shiny floors, clean waiting areas, and free food at the dealer - who do you think pays for that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask other Buick (or GM) owners where they service their cars &#8211; especially people with older models.  This is how I found a great mechanic.  Particularily listen to single women (or women whose husband&#8217;s know nothing about cars, such as myself) if they trust a mechanic, he&#8217;s good as gold.  I have a mechanic now whom I will consult with before I buy a car.  In other words, I&#8217;ll only buy the models he works on.  When my husband&#8217;s car was totaled last year I gave him a list of cars he could buy that Dallas (our mechanic) works on.  I told my husband to buy one of these cars and if he didn&#8217;t he was on his own as far as repairs went.  My husband is no dummy, he bought a car off that list &#8211; he doesn&#8217;t want to go shopping for a mechanic either.</p>
<p>When I bought my Acura a few years ago I had it serviced a few times at the dealer &#8211; maily cause there was warranty work involved.  They always found extra things wrong with it.  I would take my car over to my mechanic, Dallas, and he&#8217;d check it out and say &#8220;looks good, I don&#8217;t know what Acura saw wrong with it.&#8221;  In other words &#8211; I&#8217;m scared to go to the dealer, not my mechanic.  All those shiny floors, clean waiting areas, and free food at the dealer &#8211; who do you think pays for that?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or get a Honda/Toyota etc and not have to bring your car in as often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or get a Honda/Toyota etc and not have to bring your car in as often.</p>
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		<title>By: mwaters</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwaters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha...oh, you were serious.  My nearest dealership is 170 miles away.  Good luck with your garage search.  Really like your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha&#8230;oh, you were serious.  My nearest dealership is 170 miles away.  Good luck with your garage search.  Really like your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard an NPR story recently about repairpal.com It sounded like great idea. Wondering what a repair should really cost is the biggest concern for me. Angie&#039;s List is another resource, but a lack adequate reviews for your area can still be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard an NPR story recently about repairpal.com It sounded like great idea. Wondering what a repair should really cost is the biggest concern for me. Angie&#8217;s List is another resource, but a lack adequate reviews for your area can still be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Car Talk has a good mechanic shop rating site.  We found a local shop that specializes in Toyotas and Hondas there that charges about half the dealer price for various jobs.

http://www.cartalk.com/content/mechx/find.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Car Talk has a good mechanic shop rating site.  We found a local shop that specializes in Toyotas and Hondas there that charges about half the dealer price for various jobs.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cartalk.com/content/mechx/find.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cartalk.com/content/mechx/find.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JLP

Things must be very different where you live.  Auto dealers around us are all crooks that use FUD to squeeze money out of you they can&#039;t make in selling cars.  We&#039;ve had negative experiences with 4 local dealers each a different brand.

I find that service departments in dealers play off of the fear that a local guy doing the work will void the warranty (untrue).  Their parts are expensive (brand name oil filters?) when off the shelf ones are of the same quality.  We&#039;ve had experiences in being overcharged for labor i.e. 2 hours labor for 20 minutes work and one estimate of $650 for a job that our local garage quoted $500.  A friend of mine in the business also knows first-hand that at dealers the experienced mechanics don&#039;t get a lot of hours because of their pay and you&#039;re likely to have some kid working on your car.

I do take our car to the dealer every so often for a cheap service (i.e. oil change) to see if there are any service bulletins on the car since the one thing I&#039;ve found that the local guy can&#039;t do is update the software on the car&#039;s computer.

That said, I do admit there are shady local guys too, and it&#039;s hard to find a good one on your own.  Word of mouth always worked for us, so it&#039;s good to know people that have lived in the area a while, but doing that investigating really paid off for us.

$.02

K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JLP</p>
<p>Things must be very different where you live.  Auto dealers around us are all crooks that use FUD to squeeze money out of you they can&#8217;t make in selling cars.  We&#8217;ve had negative experiences with 4 local dealers each a different brand.</p>
<p>I find that service departments in dealers play off of the fear that a local guy doing the work will void the warranty (untrue).  Their parts are expensive (brand name oil filters?) when off the shelf ones are of the same quality.  We&#8217;ve had experiences in being overcharged for labor i.e. 2 hours labor for 20 minutes work and one estimate of $650 for a job that our local garage quoted $500.  A friend of mine in the business also knows first-hand that at dealers the experienced mechanics don&#8217;t get a lot of hours because of their pay and you&#8217;re likely to have some kid working on your car.</p>
<p>I do take our car to the dealer every so often for a cheap service (i.e. oil change) to see if there are any service bulletins on the car since the one thing I&#8217;ve found that the local guy can&#8217;t do is update the software on the car&#8217;s computer.</p>
<p>That said, I do admit there are shady local guys too, and it&#8217;s hard to find a good one on your own.  Word of mouth always worked for us, so it&#8217;s good to know people that have lived in the area a while, but doing that investigating really paid off for us.</p>
<p>$.02</p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: J:M</title>
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		<dc:creator>J:M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally understand what you&#039;re dealing with.  Situations like these is a perfect example of why I want websites like Yelp.com to flourish.  Sites like those can be used to find decent and honest business reviews, and in your case garages.  I used them to find the garage I currently use but I have to admit that the site still needs more people to review auto shops, body shops, etc.  Especially when trying to be financially savvy, finding places that won&#039;t screw you out of your hard earned dollar is very important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally understand what you&#8217;re dealing with.  Situations like these is a perfect example of why I want websites like Yelp.com to flourish.  Sites like those can be used to find decent and honest business reviews, and in your case garages.  I used them to find the garage I currently use but I have to admit that the site still needs more people to review auto shops, body shops, etc.  Especially when trying to be financially savvy, finding places that won&#8217;t screw you out of your hard earned dollar is very important.</p>
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