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Your Withdrawal Rate Matters

By JLP | September 29, 2009

Longtime AFM readers will remember the simulated retirement portfolio I put together with exchange-traded funds. I have been tracking the portfolio since 2004, which was the first year that all the exchange-traded funds in the portfolio were available.

As you can see from the graphic below, the withdrawal amount can have a drastic affect on the portfolio’s value—especially in down years.

I assumed that the retirement account began 2004 with a balance of $1,000,000, invested like so (rebalanced annually to keep the same allocation):

All ETF Retirement Portfolio

I then ran two hypotheticals based on a 4% and 5% withdrawal rate to show how they impact the portfolio’s value over time (you can click on the graphic to see a larger version):

Portfolio Performance and Withdrawal Rates

The portfolio took a pretty big hit in 2008, losing 18% of its value. It has rebounded nicely so far in 2009 but is still well below its value at the end of 2007.

My advice is to stay flexible on your withdrawal rate. If you can afford to take a smaller withdrawal after a down year, then consider doing so.

Topics: Investing, Retirement Planning | 5 Comments »


5 Responses to “Your Withdrawal Rate Matters”

  1. Mark Says:
    September 29th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Either I’m missing something or there is an error in your numbers. If you take out either 4% or 5%, how do you start and end each year with the same balances and have the same dividend income?

  2. Mike Says:
    September 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    And why do you have 10 different ETFs based on sector? The VTI and IWV were in existence. Wouldn’t that save on expense fees and general management?

  3. Tim Hawkins Says:
    September 30th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    I would suggest protecting yourself from the down years by taking out extra in the up years and storing it in a CD Ladder. That way you avoid some selling transaction costs and avoid selling when the market is down.

  4. BG Says:
    October 1st, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    I hadn’t thought about managing money during retirement, but I think Tim is on to something. Wouldn’t you want some money in something conservative that would last you a few years or so? Specifically to deal with the situations like the one we are in now.

    Perhaps that is what you are doing with the 50% bonds (I don’t know how well they held up). I guess the technique would be something like: every year, pull “income-living” money from the fund(s) that have become “overweight” before doing the yearly rebalance. In 2008, this would be a cash fund for sure (since everything else dropped) — cash would’ve been “overweight” in 2008.

    But the technique would seem to make sense no matter what investment funds you had going on — all you want to look at is relative percentages.

  5. BG Says:
    October 1st, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    I have one more comment about this: is it realistic that you would/could live on a fixed-percentage of your investments? If you need $40k per year, or the $50k per year (adjusted for inflation of course) when you started this in 2004, you still need the same amount, regardless of how the investments perform, in 2009.

    Only withdraw the amount actually needed, instead of simply taking out 4% (or 5%) regardless.

    I don’t know how realistic it would be for someone to withdraw $47k in 2008, and then only $38k in 2009 — a 20% reduction in living expenses would be a tough maneuver to pull off.

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