8 thoughts on “Circular Logic”

  1. Not circular once you realize that the word ‘people’ (used in the sentence twice) are really two different groups.

    People (felons) are bad, but the government is not made up of them, because felons are not allowed to vote, etc — and this applies to A LOT of groups.

    Citizens / Corporations
    Illegal Mexicans / Natural Citizens

  2. And then you realize that the people in that statement truly are the same. Just one group is far more powerful than the other. One group kills a few people, the other group is responsible for the deaths of millions and calls it war/economic sanctions. One group steals a few things, the other group steals trillions and calls it taxes. And on and on.

  3. Read through the Federalist papers. In #51, you find the following statement:
    “But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.”

  4. Jack) why shouldn’t they be allowed to vote? What is the next group that won’t be allowed to vote? What are you going to do when it is determined that the group you belong to will not be allowed to vote?

  5. > Why shouldn’t [felons] be allowed to vote?

    Because felons think so little of the law, people, and society that they will commit felonies that cause significant harm to people and society. They have a proven history of making VERY bad choices.

    Why SHOULD they be allowed to chose the people who write the laws? Why SHOULD they be allowed to vote on the constitutional amendments we will have to live with, when they do not care about the law and have such a history of making poor decisions?

  6. Jack) Because they are people, and they have supposedly already served their time (to society) for their crimes. I don’t think active prisoners should be able to vote.

    However, once they are out of prison, it is discriminatory to not allow them to vote, and is the beginning of the slippery slope where other groups will be targeted and lose their rights to vote too.

    A RIGHT IS A RIGHT! If they can’t vote, then I say they shouldn’t have to pay taxes either.

  7. I always get a good chuckle at people who think that there are bad people and then there are people who work for the government. As if government employees and politicians are all altruistic and beyond reproach!

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