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Saw this on the Economist yesterday. Interesting.
Not sure I buy it, considering that Canada’s violent crime rate is about three times that of the United States (1215/100k in Canada vs 403/100k in the U.S.).
Jack) that and a lot of violent crimes in the US would be ignored in muslim leading nations (rape, crimes against christians, girls burning to death in schools, etc).
Always beware of statistics used to prove someone’s hypothesis. By asking the two questions and then applying math, you can easily manipulate the numbers to highlight certain trends. It would appear from the graph above, that Muslim populations commit less crime than Christians.
So, all those crimes occurring in the Middle East last year in the aftermath of the Arab Spring must not be in the data set…
Keep in mind that they are considering the US a “Christian” nation, when I’m pretty sure that a lot of those crimes committed are committed by people who are not Christian.
If we were to institute penalties like losing a hand, we would see a sharp drop in theft. Not saying I want to go that far, but it would definitely be a deterrent.
I’d pick a different appendage for the crimes referred to in #2…
For the many people who looked only at the chart, but not the article, keep in mind that the title is “The Devil’s in the deterrent”, and the article states “It seems that believing more strongly in the forgiveness of sins than in punishment in the after-life may help pave the way for further transgressions.”
In excuse-and-forgive religions, specifically some brands of christianity, a cultural norm of permissiveness develops.
Sounds like some of the commentators are making excuses because they don’t like seeing Muslim countries have a lower crime rate than the US.
Those countries definitely have a few high-profile crimes that make the news, but the rates for crimes like theft are much lower due to the draconian penalties.
Few countries have the level of gun-related crimes, so it is not really surprising that the US is a bit of an outlier on the high side,
As for the crimes against women – the US is far from immune. Are the rapes in the US more “legitimate” than in those other countries?
Mark) You do realize that a not-insignificant portion of the population of those Muslim-countries dont think the 9/11 hijackers committed any crime — in fact, even earned themselves a ticket to ‘heaven’.
Also, I wouldn’t trust any statistics on crime rates in those countries because of the oppressive nature OF Islam. Specifically: it is the rape VICTIM that is considered the criminal (adulterer).
Not sure what to make of this graph and article. I don’t really thing that they make the point that “It seems that believing more strongly in the forgiveness of sins than in punishment in the after-life may help pave the way for further transgressions.”