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		<title>Reader Question Regarding Personal Rate of Return</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2010/04/16/reader-question-regarding-personal-rate-of-return/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I received an email from a guy who needed help with figuring out his personal rate of return using Excel&#8217;s XIRR formula. He had just started contributing to his 401(k): 3/26/2010 &#8211; $188.50 4/8/2010 &#8211; $377.02 4/16/2010 &#8211; Balance of $593.54 The XIRR formula requires both negative and positive numbers in order for it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I received an email from a guy who needed help with figuring out his personal rate of return using Excel&#8217;s XIRR formula.  He had just started contributing to his 401(k):</p>
<p>3/26/2010 &#8211; $188.50<br />
4/8/2010 &#8211; $377.02<br />
4/16/2010 &#8211; Balance of $593.54</p>
<p>The XIRR formula requires both negative and positive numbers in order for it to work.  So, the best thing to do is to enter contributions as negative numbers since they are &#8220;outflows&#8221; to you.  Like this:</p>
<p><center><img src="http://allfinancialmatters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Personal-ROR-Example-2.gif" alt="" title="Personal ROR Example - 2" width="232" height="109" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4799" /></center></p>
<p>Then, the ending balance would be a positive number.  I explained this to the reader and this morning he sent me back an email telling me that he did it but got a return of 314%, which didn&#8217;t seem correct because his company was telling him the answer was 8.53%.  </p>
<p>Both answers are correct.  This is because the XIRR formula is annualized.  To get the personal rate of return for the this time period, we have to adjust the annualized number.  It&#8217;s easy enough to do.  You just use this formula:</p>
<p>PRR (Personal Rate of Return) = [(1 + 3.148)<sup># of days/365</sup>] &#8211; 1</p>
<p>To get the number of days you simply subtract 3/26/2010 from 4/16/2010 to get 21 days.</p>
<p>PRR (Personal Rate of Return) = [4.148<sup>21/365</sup>] &#8211; 1</p>
<p>PRR (Personal Rate of Return) = [4.148<sup>.0575</sup>] &#8211; 1</p>
<p>PRR (Personal Rate of Return) = [1.08524] &#8211; 1</p>
<p>PRR (Personal Rate of Return) = .08524 or 8.52% (different due to rounding)</p>
<p>In other words, his personal rate of return over that 21-dayperiod was 8.53% but if you annualize the number, it&#8217;s 314%.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope this was helpful.  The XIRR formula can be confusing.</p>
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		<title>401(k) Just a Few Thousand Away From Previous High</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2009/09/17/401k-just-a-few-thousand-away-from-previous-high/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was checking my wife&#8217;s 401(k) balance last night and noticed a couple of interesting things: 1. The balance is just a few thousand shy of its previous high-water mark. Yes, that number includes contributions but it&#8217;s still shows drastic improvement from the low. 2. Last year&#8217;s personal rate of return was somewhere around -40%. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was checking my wife&#8217;s 401(k) balance last night and noticed a couple of interesting things:</p>
<p>1.  The balance is just a few thousand shy of its previous high-water mark.  Yes, that number includes contributions but it&#8217;s still shows drastic improvement from the low.</p>
<p>2.  Last year&#8217;s personal rate of return was somewhere around -40%.  This year&#8217;s is currently at 29.3%.  Remember, the personal rate of return takes into account contributions.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where the economy/market is headed but I&#8217;m content to stay the course and believe it will pay off in the long run.  I have tweaked our 401(k) investment selections a bit but haven&#8217;t moved money from asset class to asset class.  We are still 100% equities, divided evenly between large-cap, midcap, smallcap, and international.  <strong>NOTE: </strong>I&#8217;m NOT recommending this allocation for anyone.  I&#8217;m just telling you how we are investing our 401(k) account.</p>
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		<title>SURPRISE!!!!!  Our Personal Rate of Return is 11.5% for 2009!</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2009/06/03/surprise-our-personal-rate-of-return-is-115-for-2009/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I logged into my wife&#8217;s 401(k) account this morning to find this: The definition of personal rate of return (I put together a tutorial here) on Fidelity&#8217;s website is: Your Personal Rate of Return is calculated with a time-weighted formula, widely used by financial analysts to calculate investment earnings. The calculated value reflects the result [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I logged into my wife&#8217;s 401(k) account this morning to find this:</p>
<p><center><img src="http://allfinancialmatters.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/personal-rate-of-return.jpg" alt="Personal Rate of Return" title="Personal Rate of Return" width="306" height="57" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3492" /></center></p>
<p>The definition of personal rate of return (I put together a tutorial <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/"><strong>here</strong></a>) on Fidelity&#8217;s website is:</p>
<blockquote><p>Your Personal Rate of Return is calculated with a time-weighted formula, widely used by financial analysts to calculate investment earnings. The calculated value reflects the result of your investment selections as well as any activity in the plan accounts shown. Other personal rate of return formulas may yield different results. Remember, past performance is no guarantee of future results.</p></blockquote>
<p>That explains why our personal rate of return looks so good.  For one, we increased our contribution amount AFTER the carnage of January and February.  Two, the company&#8217;s profit-sharing contribution was also deposited in March, missing the bad months of January and February.  In other words, our number could look much worse.</p>
<p>My point?</p>
<p>INVEST!</p>
<p>Invest regularly and forget about it!  Have your allocation plan set up and STICK TO IT!  Don&#8217;t worry about the news.  If your 401(k) balance is going to bug you, DON&#8217;T LOOK AT IT!  The worst thing you can do is allow your emotions to take control.  Decisions made on emotion almost never work out.</p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s it.  Carry on&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>Question From a Reader &#8211; Am I Calculating My Returns Correctly?</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/11/10/question-from-a-reader-am-i-calculating-my-returns-correctly/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comment was left by Leland Holliday on an old post, Fun Math: How to Calculate Returns Using Monthly Data: I used your method on each of the funds in my portfolio for YTD 2008 (thru 10/31/08). The results I got exactly matched the YTD values published in WSJ and on the Fidelity and Vanguard [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment was left by Leland Holliday on an old post, <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/10/01/fun-math-how-to-calculate-returns-using-monthly-data/"target="_blank">Fun Math: How to Calculate Returns Using Monthly Data</a>:</p>
<p><em>I used your method on each of the funds in my portfolio for YTD 2008 (thru 10/31/08). The results I got exactly matched the YTD values published in WSJ and on the Fidelity and Vanguard websites. That surprised me, since I had made major transfers during June (greatly reducing the amounts in stock-based funds). Thus, I expected my personal rate of return in those funds to be different from the published returns. Am I doing something wrong, or is the method wrong for my situation?</em></p>
<p>Leland,</p>
<p>Most likely what you calculated was not your personal rate of return but the returns of the funds themselves.  Your personal rate of return takes into account the timing of your contributions and withdrawals.  The easiest way to perform this calculation is with <a title="How to Calculate Your Personal Rate of Return"href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/">Excel&#8217;s XIRR formula</a>.</p>
<p>The only portion of your account that would have received the same returns as those published in the Wall Street Journal are those that were invested during that same exact period.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.  For more on the personal rate of return, see <a title="How to Calculate Your Personal Rate of Return"href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/"><strong>this post</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s Better Than A 20% Return?</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2008/01/29/whats-better-than-a-20-return/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What could possibly be better than a 20% return on your money??  I'll tell you, and it isn't a gimmick.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What could possibly be better than a 20% return on your money??  I&#8217;ll tell you, and it isn&#8217;t a gimmick.  </p>
<p><strong>INVESTOR 1</strong><br />
Investor 1 wants to do right by herself and her money.  She&#8217;s worked hard to stash away $1000, and she&#8217;s determined to maximize her return.  So over the course of a year she spends much of her time online researching stocks.  She keeps up with all the news, trades often, and is alternately exhilerated and stressed with every volatile turn in the markets.  </p>
<p><strong>She does well and earns a 20% return </strong>&#8211; even after taxes and all those trading fees!  At the end of the year her $1000 has turned into $1200.  She smiles and pats herself on the back.  Then she flips on CNBC to see if she can pick up some tips on how to duplicate that return next year.</p>
<p><strong>INVESTOR 2 </strong><br />
Investor 2 also worked hard to stash away $1000.  She too wants to do what&#8217;s best for her financial future by making that money grow as fast as possible.  Therefore she sticks her $1000 in an index fund.  She knows this will minimize fees and taxes and &#8211; more importantly &#8211; that she can just let that money sit there without having to spend a lot of time tracking the markets, trading stocks, or doing research. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s diversified, and at the end of the year <strong>she has returned 8%  </strong>on her money with little to no effort.  She smiles, satisfied, and knows that over time she&#8217;ll probably end up averaging that return.  </p>
<p><strong>AND THE WINNER IS&#8230;</strong><br />
Investor 2!  [trumpets blare]  So wait&#8211;why is Investor 2 better off than Investor 1!?  No, not because she&#8217;s taking the slow and steady route to win the race, and not because she appears to be more sensible than Investor 1 or because she better manages her time and values balance in her life (although those are all good reasons).  </p>
<p>Investor 2 wins simply because she ended the year with over $1,700 while Investor 2 only had $1200 in her account.  &#8220;What?!&#8221; you cry.  &#8220;But Investor 2 only made 8%; how can she end up with $1,700??&#8211;that&#8217;s a 70% return!&#8221;  Good catch by you.  I left out one detail: Investor 2 managed to put away an additional $50 a month during the course of the year.  She used her extra time not to chase returns on the latest booming sector but rather to make lunches for work, learn to effectively grocery shop, mow her own lawn instead of pay the neighbor kid, and cook dinner more often.  </p>
<p><strong>The Moral of the Story</strong><br />
OK, so if she actually did all those things she could have saved a lot more than $50/mo.  She could have spent all her free time playing Guitar Hero 3, but the point is that putting away more money is a whole lot more effective than trying to maximize your return.</p>
<p><strong>YOUR RETURN DOESN&#8217;T REALLY MATTER</strong></p>
<p><strong>Caveat:</strong> Ok, so once you have over $1,000,000 in investments your return starts to matter&#8211;and at that point it matters a LOT.  The difference between an 8% return and a 10% return is $20,000 a year when you have a million in the bank.  But if you have $100,000 the difference is only $2,000.  </p>
<p>Sure, $2000 is a lot of money, but it&#8217;s only $166 a month.  That&#8217;s not exactly worth paying expensive financial advisors, racking up trading commissions and taxes, or being chained to the Wall Street Journal and CNBC to track your bet-of-the-week.  </p>
<p>Why not just accept market returns, keep saving, and enjoy your life?  </p>
<p><em>More from Meg at <a href="http://wealthisgood.blogspot.com">The World of Wealth</a></em></p>
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		<title>Fidelity&#8217;s Year-to-Date Change Feature</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/05/04/fidelitys-year-to-date-change-feature/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 19:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife&#8217;s company moved their 401(k) to Fidelity in January 2001. For the most part, it was a good move. One feature that Fidelity has that I really like is the Year-to-Date Change screen that looks like this: (If this were an anonymous blog, I would have no problem giving more details.) Anyway, Fidelity started [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife&#8217;s company moved their 401(k) to Fidelity in January 2001.  For the most part, it was a good move.  One feature that Fidelity has that I really like is the Year-to-Date Change screen that looks like this:</p>
<p><center><img src="http://allfinancialmatters.com/Graphics/Fidelity.GIF" /></center></p>
<p>(If this were an anonymous blog, I would have no problem giving more details.)</p>
<p>Anyway, Fidelity started offering this information a couple of years ago.  I really like the fact that it gives us our year-to-date personal rate of return, which happens to be 8% so far this year.  On the last day of each year I like to print out this page along with the transaction history for the entire year because it gives a great summary of what went on with our account.  Then I file this information in our 401(k) folder for future reference.  I also have a massive Excel file that I have used to track every transaction in the 401(k) but I haven&#8217;t updated it since December, 2004.</p>
<p>How much attention do you pay to your 401(k) or retirement account?  Do you check the balance daily, weekly, or monthly?  I&#8217;m a daily guy (unless the market was really down).  They say the more frequently you check your balance, the more likely you are to make changes.  So far, I have never let the short-term market swings cause me to make changes.  Instead, when the market is down I just think about all those extra shares we are going to pick up because of the lower prices!</p>
<p>UPDATE: In response to CK&#8217;s comment below, here&#8217;s what Fidelity has to say about the way personal rate of return is calculated:</p>
<blockquote><p>Your Personal Rate of Return is calculated with a time-weighted formula, widely used by financial analysts to calculate investment earnings. It reflects the result of your investment selections as well as any activity in the plan account(s) shown. There are other Personal Rate of Return formulas used that may yield different results. Remember that past performance is no guarantee of future results. </p></blockquote>
<p>I have written about personal rate of return in the past:</p>
<p><a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/"<strong>How to Calculate Your Personal Rate of Return</a></p>
<p><a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/01/24/question-from-a-reader-calculating-returns/"><strong>Question From a Reader: Calculating Returns</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/01/16/question-from-a-reader-calculating-personal-rate-of-return/"><strong>Question From a Reader: Calculating Personal Rate of Return</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/01/02/figuring-your-personal-rate-of-return/"><strong>Figuring Your Personal Rate of Return</strong></a></p>
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		<title>Question From a Reader &#8211; Calculating Returns</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/01/24/question-from-a-reader-calculating-returns/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My How &#8216;Total Returns&#8217; Are Calculated post received the following comment from a reader named Dan: I get a little confused when I try to make these calculations to work with (1) purchases that occur at different times and (2) account fees. As an example of each: - Suppose I buy somes shares in January. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/01/22/how-total-returns-are-calculated/"target="_blank"><strong>How &#8216;Total Returns&#8217; Are Calculated</strong></a> post received the following comment from a reader named Dan:</p>
<blockquote><p>I get a little confused when I try to make these calculations to work with (1) purchases that occur at different times and (2) account fees. As an example of each:</p>
<p>- Suppose I buy somes shares in January. I earn a dividend in March and reinvest that. Then in April, the price has changed, and I buy more shares. I earn another dividend in September, then December. Can I calculate a “combined APY” that represents my return on both those transactions together?</p>
<p>- Suppose everything is the same as above, except that in August, I have to pay a $20 fee to maintain the account. It matters -when- this fee is paid, right? How do I consider that in my calculations? Are there any good reference books for this?</p></blockquote>
<p>Dan,</p>
<p>This is fairly easy to do in Excel.  This particular calculation is called the Personal Rate of Return.  I did a tutorial on this last April, which you can read <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/"target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a>.  Just remember for the formula to work, you must have both negative and positive numbers.  <del datetime="2007-01-25T02:22:27+00:00">So, I would enter any deposits you make into the account as negative numbers and withdrawals (such as the $20 account fee you mentioned) as positive numbers.</del>  CORRECTION: I was wrong.  You do not include reinvested dividends in the calculation because they are accounted for in the end result.  The $20 fee also should be included as a negative number.</p>
<p>It should looks something like this:</p>
<p><center><img src="http://allfinancialmatters.com/Graphics/PRORExample.GIF" alt="Personal Rate of Return Example" /></center></p>
<p>The 26.23% was found using the XIRR formula in Excel.  Read <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/"target="_blank"><strong>this post</strong></a> to learn more about the XIRR function.</p>
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		<title>Question From a Reader &#8211; Calculating Personal Rate of Return</title>
		<link>http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/01/16/question-from-a-reader-calculating-personal-rate-of-return/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received the following question from a reader: JLP, Thank you for your site. I have found you present topics in easy to understand ways and also bring to light other sources of information that do the same. I was reviewing your post on personal rate of return and I wanted to ask a question [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the following question from a reader:</p>
<blockquote><p>JLP,</p>
<p>Thank you for your site.  I have found you present topics in easy to understand ways and also bring to light other sources of information that do the same.</p>
<p>I was reviewing your post on personal rate of return and I wanted to ask a question about 401Ks and personal ROR.  In calculating your personal rate of return would you include company matching funds as part of the contributions?  I could see it both ways, as the company match can be seen an immediate return OR the true returns are on the various investment vehicles you select within your 401K.</p></blockquote>
<p>My response:<span id="more-1497"></span></p>
<p>Yes, you should include any matches in the calculation.  The purpose of the personal rate of return calculation is to see how your investments are performing.  If you don&#8217;t include the employer match in the calculation but still use the same ending value, which includes the company match, you will overstate your personal rate of return.</p>
<p>For example, using the <a href="http://financebuff.blogspot.com/2007/01/estimate-your-overall-personal-rate-of.html"target="_blank"><strong>formula</strong></a> I found over at FinanceBuff&#8217;s blog, you can calculate your personal rate of return (PRR)&#8230;</p>
<p>2006 Beginning Balance of $50,000<br />
2006 Contributions of $6,750 (of which $2,250 is company match)<br />
2006 Ending Balance of $64,000</p>
<p><strong>Step 1 &#8211; </strong>Take the ending balance and SUBTRACT half of the amount contributed:</p>
<p><center><strong>[$64,000 - ($6750 X .5)]</strong></center></p>
<p><center><strong>$64,000 &#8211; $3,375</strong></center></p>
<p><center><strong>$60,625</strong></center></p>
<p><strong>Step 2 &#8211; </strong>Take the beginning balance and ADD half of the amount contributed:</p>
<p><center><strong>[$50,000 + ($6750 X .5)]</strong></center></p>
<p><center><strong>$50,000 + $3,375</strong></center></p>
<p><center><strong>$53,375</strong></center></p>
<p><strong>Step 3 &#8211; </strong>Now, to find your PRR, divide the answer found in Step 1 by the answer found in Step 2.  Then, subtract 1 from that answer:</p>
<p><center><strong>PRR = ($60,625 &#247; $53,375) &#8211; 1</strong></center></p>
<p><center><strong>PRR = 1.1358 &#8211; 1</strong></center></p>
<p><center><strong>PRR = .1358 or 13.58%</strong></center></p>
<p>Now, perform the calculation again but EXCLUDE the company match of $2,250, and you&#8217;ll get a personal rate of return of 18.18%.  Sure, it sounds good but it isn&#8217;t realistic in this case since a good portion of that &#8220;return&#8221; wasn&#8217;t from actual investment growth.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I hope this helps.  I&#8217;m curious to hear what you guys think.</p>
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		<title>Figuring Your Personal Rate of Return</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 04:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Finance Buff has a very interesting post that details a simple formula that you can use to estimate your personal rate of return. I blogged about this very topic last year but my formula was incredibly detailed and would be a major pain for most people to use. To compute FB&#8217;s formula, the only [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://financebuff.blogspot.com"target="_blank">Finance Buff</a> has a very <a href="http://financebuff.blogspot.com/2007/01/estimate-your-overall-personal-rate-of.html"target="_blank"><strong>interesting post</strong></a> that details a simple formula that you can use to estimate your personal rate of return.  I <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/"><strong>blogged about this very topic</strong></a> last year but my formula was incredibly detailed and would be a major pain for most people to use.  To compute FB&#8217;s formula, the only information you need is:</p>
<p>1.  The beginning balance<br />
2.  Net amount invested or deposited into the account<br />
3.  The ending balance</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not one to steal other people&#8217;s content, so you&#8217;ll have to head over to FB&#8217;s blog for a <a href="http://financebuff.blogspot.com/2007/01/estimate-your-overall-personal-rate-of.html"target="_blank"><strong>great example</strong></a> of how the formula works.</p>
<p>No, it probably isn&#8217;t totally accurate, but it will do a great job of giving you an idea of how you did.  In fact, I ran the numbers on my wife&#8217;s 401(k) and came up with a personal rate of return of 17.3%, which is VERY CLOSE to the 17.2% that Fidelity reports.  Pretty cool!</p>
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		<title>How Do You Calculate the Return on a Fixed Immediate Annuity?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JLP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I put together a pretty simple spreadsheet (download) that will tell you your rate of return on a fixed immediate annuity. This spreadsheet works best for &#8220;life only&#8221; or &#8220;joint and survivor.&#8221; Naturally, if you choose the &#8220;life only&#8221; payout, your payment will be higher but will end when the annuitant dies. Also, although Vanguard [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put together a <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/Calculators/FIACalculator.xls"target="_blank"><strong>pretty simple spreadsheet</strong></a> (<em>download</em>) that will tell you your rate of return on a fixed immediate annuity.  This spreadsheet works best <span id="more-885"></span>for &#8220;life only&#8221; or &#8220;joint and survivor.&#8221;  Naturally, if you choose the &#8220;life only&#8221; payout, your payment will be higher but will end when the annuitant dies.  Also, although Vanguard gives you the opportunity to choose what percentage of the original payment the survivor will receive, it is assumed that the survivor will get 100% in this spreadsheet.</p>
<p>The first thing to do is to get a <a href="http://www.aigretirementgold.com/vlip/VLIPController?page=RequestaQuote"target="_blank"><strong>quote</strong></a> from Vanguard.  I went in an played around with Vanguard&#8217;s Request a Quote and found it pretty easy to understand.  Once you get your numbers, you can plug them into <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/Calculators/FIACalculator.xls"target="_blank"><strong>this spreadsheet</strong></a> (<em>download</em>), which is basically the same spreadsheet I used in my post titled <a href="http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/06/22/the-risk-with-fixed-immediate-annuities/"target="_blank"><strong>The &#8220;Risk&#8221; With Fixed Immediate Annuities</strong></a>.   This spreadsheet will tell you what your rate of return is based on how long you receive income from the annuity.  The longer you receive income from the annuity, the better your return will be.  However, if you die early, your return will not be so good.</p>
<p>Play around with the spreadsheet.  If you have any questions or would like to recommend improvements, please let me know.</p>
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